Oracle, Fluid, and Sakai UX

Mon May 19 18:33:14 UTC 2008

Michael,

I'm thinking that a chat would be great -- a George, Jess, Nathan, and  
you -- I'm wondering if we can do that after I have a chance to visit  
with Berkeley first week of June?

Jess
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Jess Mitchell
Project Manager / Fluid Project
jess at jessmitchell.com
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On May 7, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Michael Feldstein wrote:

> I'll leave it to George to respond to the particular ideas in terms  
> of the "what" in the collaboration, other than to note that some  
> internal Peoplesoft Campus Solutions people might be interested in  
> sitting in on accessibility testing work. On the "how," I'd like to  
> make two requests. First, let's try to coordinate the Fluid and  
> Sakai UX conversations wherever appropriate. I realize that they  
> don't always overlap, but the more we are able to coordinate, the  
> more Oracle will be likely to find areas where we can help. Second,  
> please do keep me in the loop as these conversations as they go  
> forward so that I can help facilitate between the groups of people  
> who are all trying to collaborate on work that is not their  
> respective day jobs.
>
> One possible next step would be to get George, Jess, Nathan, and me  
> on a call together to identify the low-hanging fruit and put a  
> proposal together to bring back to the larger groups. Does that make  
> sense?
>
> - m
>
>
> Jutta Treviranus wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>> Thanks for this note and prodding to continue these discussions. One
>> thing that was also offered was accessibility testing of prototype
>> components. This would be very helpful. The Industry Advisory
>> Committee sounds like a great idea. It would be good to get advice on
>> UX design methods and resources in general, especially as they relate
>> to fluid, reconfigurable interfaces. Could George work with Jess
>> Mitchell to organize this?
>>
>> thanks
>> Jutta
>>
>> At 3:35 PM -0400 5/6/08, Michael Feldstein wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I had originally sent this email out to a semi-random subset of the
>>> people who might be interested. Thanks to Eli for reminding me that
>>> it should have gone out to the lists. So I'm re-sending. Apologies
>>> to those who are getting it twice. We'd like to hear any ideas you
>>> may have about how the Oracle UX team can be of help.
>>>
>>> Here's the original message:
>>>
>>>> As some (but possibly not all) of you know, George Hackman and his
>>>> user experience team here at Oracle have been having on-and-off
>>>> conversations with the Fluid folks about ways in which we can help
>>>> out. Linda and I had a chance to catch up with George today and,
>>>> particularly since Nathan is now on board with Sakai, we thought it
>>>> would be worthwhile to send out a brief summary to the larger group
>>>> to see what else we might be able to do to support both Fluid and
>>>> the Sakai UX effort.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my understanding of what's happened so far:
>>>>
>>>>     * George gave a webinar overview of some of his group's work  
>>>> to Fluid.
>>>>     * There was a general consensus that Oracle and Fluid should  
>>>> talk
>>>>       about collaborating in the areas of design patterns,  
>>>> usability,
>>>>       and accessibility.
>>>>     * Allison (and others?) visited George and his group at Redwood
>>>>       Shores.
>>>>     * There's been some discussion of Oracle's design pattern work,
>>>>       but we hit a bit of a wall because Oracle needs an NDA  
>>>> before we
>>>>       can show more of what we're doing and Fluid (understandably)
>>>>       can't sign one.
>>>>     * George suggested the creation of a steering or advisory
>>>>       committee consisting of various companies that have done a  
>>>> lot
>>>>       of design pattern work (e.g., Oracle, Yahoo!, eBay, etc.).  
>>>> I'm
>>>>       not sure where this conversation stands.
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss anything major?
>>>>
>>>> One additional possibility that George, Linda and I discussed today
>>>> was making our UX testing facility available to the Sakai community
>>>> for the work that's being done for the next release. Does that
>>>> strike the Sakai and Fluid folks as potentially helpful? If so, who
>>>> do we need to engage within the respective projects to investigate
>>>> that possibility further? And what else should we be thinking about
>>>> in terms of low-hanging fruit for collaboration in the short term?
>>>> George and his team are enthusiastic about contributing where they
>>>> can, and we in the AES group (Linda, Cary, and me) are happy to
>>>> help coordinate the conversation.
>>>>
>>>> - m
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
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>>> Michael Feldstein | Principal Product Manager | +1.818.817.2925
>>> Oracle Academic Enterprise Solutions Group
>>> 23A Glendale Road, Glendale, MA 01229
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I had originally sent this email out to a semi-random subset of the
>>> people who might be interested. Thanks to Eli for reminding me that
>>> it should have gone out to the lists. So I'm re-sending. Apologies
>>> to those who are getting it twice. We'd like to hear any ideas you
>>> may have about how the Oracle UX team can be of help.
>>>
>>> Here's the original message:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As some (but possibly not all) of you know, George Hackman and his
>>>> user experience team here at Oracle have been having on-and-off
>>>> conversations with the Fluid folks about ways in which we can help
>>>> out. Linda and I had a chance to catch up with George today and,
>>>> particularly since Nathan is now on board with Sakai, we thought it
>>>> would be worthwhile to send out a brief summary to the larger group
>>>> to see what else we might be able to do to support both Fluid and
>>>> the Sakai UX effort.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my understanding of what's happened so far:
>>>>
>>>> George gave a webinar overview of some of his group's work to  
>>>> Fluid.
>>>> There was a general consensus that Oracle and Fluid should talk
>>>> about collaborating in the areas of design patterns, usability, and
>>>> accessibility.
>>>> Allison (and others?) visited George and his group at Redwood  
>>>> Shores.
>>>> There's been some discussion of Oracle's design pattern work, but
>>>> we hit a bit of a wall because Oracle needs an NDA before we can
>>>> show more of what we're doing and Fluid (understandably) can't sign
>>>> one.
>>>> George suggested the creation of a steering or advisory committee
>>>> consisting of various companies that have done a lot of design
>>>> pattern work (e.g., Oracle, Yahoo!, eBay, etc.). I'm not sure where
>>>> this conversation stands.
>>>> Did I miss anything major?
>>>>
>>>> One additional possibility that George, Linda and I discussed today
>>>> was making our UX testing facility available to the Sakai community
>>>> for the work that's being done for the next release. Does that
>>>> strike the Sakai and Fluid folks as potentially helpful? If so, who
>>>> do we need to engage within the respective projects to investigate
>>>> that possibility further? And what else should we be thinking about
>>>> in terms of low-hanging fruit for collaboration in the short term?
>>>> George and his team are enthusiastic about contributing where they
>>>> can, and we in the AES group (Linda, Cary, and me) are happy to
>>>> help coordinate the conversation.
>>>>
>>>> - m
>>>>
>>>>
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