Fools rushing in

Clay Fenlason clay.fenlason at et.gatech.edu
Thu May 1 20:32:56 UTC 2008


Further exploration of these questions would be timely, either before
or during Paris.  As a practical matter rubric and goal management are
not part of the current effort, but I'd expected us to return to it
when we start to store assignment objects in JCR, taking advantage of
some of its power for attaching new forms of metadata to content
objects.  I'd also loosely planned that these functions would belong
to the Assignment Authoring region, along with being retained in the
submission itself.

Custom rubrics would also need to be respected by the gradebook in some way.

~Clay

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Hannah Reeves <hreeves at rsmart.com> wrote:
> The concept of goal management also has a natural fit with rubrics for evaluation, which I was thrilled to see in the designs, by the way.
>
>  Hannah
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Sean Keesler" <sean at keesler.org>
>  To: "Clay Fenlason" <clay.fenlason at et.gatech.edu>
>  Cc: "Daphne Ogle" <daphne at media.berkeley.edu>, "Sakai UX" <sakai-ux at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "fluid-work" <fluid-work at fluidproject.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 2:28:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>  Subject: Re: Fools rushing in
>
>  Since you are on the topic of the new assignment tool, I am interested
>  in hearing if anyone believes that something akin to Goal Management
>  should be "basked in" to the new tool. The integration of the Goal
>  Management helper with the original Assignment tool made for an awkward
>  experience (to say the least). Do you think that this new approach would
>  allow a nicer integration in the new assignment tool?
>
>  Is anyone facing accreditation issues in the next few years? It may not
>  be a big consideration now, but these needs don't always make themselves
>  evident until it is a bit late to do anything about it (says the guy who
>  just a left a school that ran face-first into it).
>
>
>  Sean
>
>  Clay Fenlason wrote:
>  > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Daphne Ogle <daphne at media.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>  >
>  >>  Is there someplace we can see the current design thinking for assignments2?
>  >>
>  >
>  > I think I'll be steadily working this into Confluence over the course
>  > of the next two weeks, but I can start with some high-level points:
>  >
>  > - the design has taken on more of a role-based separation (or, better
>  > put, the families of common tasks associated with certain roles).
>  > - the assignment functionality naturally orbits around 4 gravitational centers:
>  > 1) Assignment authoring (and related management)
>  > 2) Submission handling (and providing feedback/grading)
>  > 3) The "To-Do" list dashboard view for submitters (as well as
>  > returned feedback)
>  > 4) The individual submission itself
>  >
>  > * We find that faculty personae tend to be oriented around #1 and #2,
>  > in that order, though a significant fraction of them deal only with #1
>  > * Teaching Assistant/Tutor personae tend to be oriented around #2 and
>  > #4, in that order.
>  > * Student Personae tend to be oriented around #3 and #4, in that order.
>  >
>  > The legacy assignments tool tries to do all of this from a basecamp of
>  > more or less a single assignments tabular listing.  I think the new
>  > structure we're pursuing allows us to both do more and do less -
>  > provide more pertinent information across all the contexts, and yet to
>  > limit the amount any particular context throws at you.  It also takes
>  > pains to address a class of user that's really only been an
>  > afterthought with the legacy tool - the submission "reviewer" as
>  > distinct from the assignment author.  In the simplest case these are
>  > the same people, but in many courses (especially the larger ones) they
>  > are entirely different sets of people.  A further resultant benefit is
>  > greater transparency of the submission-feedback workflow, to each
>  > respective audience (or families of tasks).
>  >
>  > ~Clay
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