Other OS editor candidates?

Tue Dec 18 20:22:52 UTC 2007

At the OSP meeting at the end of the conference, some of us were considering the limitations of using the FCKeditor to create freeform portfolio pages. We noted that more direct control over the placement and selection of content/asets in an authored work is what we would really like to see. I'm not sure that a "swap out" of one editor for another will really be much to be excited about.

We started thinking about the fluid component model for reconstructing an authoring experience that allowed users to drag and drop images and other assets onto their document/page, dynamically resize/crop them, etc. We thought that would be a huge improvement for students authoring portfolios.

Is it worth entertaining the thought of building a "fluid-approved" editor that is modular in design that would allow a user to mix and match them to fit the task at hand, rather than getting the same editor everyplace?

Some thoughts to entertain:

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	An equation editor module for math clases
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	A music editor module for music classes
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	An "image gallery" editor module for anyone
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	A "metaobj" editor module that allows portfolio authors to add structured (form) data to their portfolio page
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	A "YouTube" plugin for someone else...etc.

I wonder who could estimate the cost of such an animal?

Sean

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From: Nate Angell [mailto:nate.angell at rsmart.com]
Sent: Tue 12/18/2007 2:11 PM
To: sakai-dev
Subject: Re: Other OS editor candidates?

I don't know the answers for sure, except to know that the WYMEDITOR 
developers do discuss and develop with accessibility in mind. I think 
accessibility is a rough go in many of the rich text editors.

As for math/science, again I'm not sure, but the WYMEDITOR method of 
staying in XML land, would enable additional processing via XSLT, and 
I know there is work on XML > LATEX translations tools available.

"As the code is compliant to W3C XHTML specifications, you can for 
example process it using a XSLT (at the client or the server side), 
giving you a wide range of applications."

As Vivie notes, WYMEDITOR is very stripped down in comparison with 
editors like TinyMCE, etc. I note it more as an alternative way of 
thinking about what an editor is doing: structuring content rather 
than decorating content.

On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Hannah Reeves wrote:

> Nate,
> Is this accessible and does it provide support for Math/Science 
> editing?
>
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> This is a "WYSIWYM" What You See Is What You Mean editor that is still
> young but has a different approach to the UX which might be worth
> looking at, I've been using a beta version for Drupal on my blog and
> liking it:
> http://www.wymeditor.org/
>
> I understand it is built on the powerful jquery library.
>
> They say the license is GPL/MIT.
>
> On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Noah Botimer wrote:
>
>> I took a look at the YUI editor a couple of months ago.  It looked
>> pretty nice, but they were pretty clear that it was an early beta.
>> I'm sure that internationalization and accessibility are high on
>> their requirements, though.
>>
>> I've been wondering when or if we could farm this out to a bigger
>> pool of experts.  That's nothing on the FCK or TinyMCE teams, but
>> there's something to be said for the muscle and accountability
>> assurances of a giant (Yahoo! or Google) who will undoubtedly bank
>> pieces of their platform and presence on the experience their editor
>> provides to a vicious global market.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Noah
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Michael Korcuska wrote:
>>
>>> This has a BSD license which is compatible with ECL.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Per Wising wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14 dec 2007, at 02.28, Vivie Sinou wrote:
>>>>> Do you know of any
>>>>> other candidates that may have popped up that we should look at?
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! has one in development. I haven't looked at it in terms of
>>>> ability to match Sakai's requirements, but it sure looks nice:
>>>> http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/editor/
>>>>
>>>> /Per
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