YouTube Channel for Fluid Project videos, transferring videos to it, general video standards

Mon Mar 13 16:28:30 UTC 2017

So, a channel manager can:

1)       Upload new videos to the channel account

2)       Caption or otherwise edit existing videos

At minimum this should lower the overhead of managing a centralized channel like this.

From: fluid-work <fluid-work-bounces at lists.idrc.ocad.ca> on behalf of "Harnum, Alan" <aharnum at ocadu.ca>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2017 at 12:22 PM
To: Tony Atkins <tony at raisingthefloor.org>
Cc: Fluid Work <fluid-work at fluidproject.org>
Subject: Re: YouTube Channel for Fluid Project videos, transferring videos to it, general video standards

Hi Tony,

Yes, I believe you can contribute captions if videos enabled community contribution, but this isn’t on by default.

You can transfer captions from a video on one account to another via a similar means to “transferring” the video – downloading them (I used VTT format to retain the timings), then uploading them again. I was honestly rather surprised YouTube didn’t provide a “transfer ownership” function.

I’ve been thinking more about the benefit of centralization vs. individual accounts with videos added to playlists. The individual accounts fear is content loss, but expecting all the videos of the community to be consolidated under one account may not be reasonable and adds overhead.

It looks like YouTube has introduced a “channel owner vs. channel manager” concept in the last few years: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/4628007  - I’m not sure how this works but it might allow us to add additional (personal) Google accounts who can upload and caption videos. Worth a try, maybe? I’m going to try adding my own personal account and see what happens.

From: Tony Atkins <tony at raisingthefloor.org>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2017 at 12:01 PM
To: "Harnum, Alan" <aharnum at ocadu.ca>
Cc: Fluid Work <fluid-work at fluidproject.org>
Subject: Re: YouTube Channel for Fluid Project videos, transferring videos to it, general video standards

Hi, Alan:

Great effort, and a good reminder of some of the videos out there.  I have subscribed to the channel so that I can work through them and remind myself of ongoing efforts across the wider team (also to remind myself to share new videos with wider groups as they come out).

So, I use closed captions a fair amount with my YouTube videos, and would be happy to help out if I can.   In looking at both the Fluid Project videos and the outliers, I don't see any way to submit one for someone else's video.  I tried the translations link just to see, each video was not "enabled for community contribution".

Also, I assume we should only add captions after the transfer?  It sounds like they'd be lost otherwise.

Anyway, please advise on how/whether/when we can help with the captions.

Cheers,

Tony

P.S.  The "IDRC Relevant Videos" wiki link appeared to be broken to me, I had to remove the trailing parenthesis before it would load: https://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/IDRC-relevant+Videos

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Harnum, Alan <aharnum at ocadu.ca<mailto:aharnum at ocadu.ca>> wrote:
Hi all,

Summary of the Below

1)       There is an existing FluidProject YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBT-cBmvdLAhCm58ulpBulQ that we can add newly made videos to

2)       YouTube has no automatic function for transferring videos from one account to another, but there is a manual process (which results in the loss of any metrics and requires re-uploading the video and captions).

3)       The consensus from last week’s planning meeting seemed to be that we should, at minimum, caption published videos.

4)       Please share any thoughts or questions about how we can best make use of video for documenting and disseminating our work.

Fluid Project YouTube Channel

We’ve made a number of videos recently and uploaded them to YouTube under various personal accounts.

It would be good to consolidate these under the existing FluidProject account at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBT-cBmvdLAhCm58ulpBulQ (latest videos from the long-ago year of 2009) rather than have them floating around under personal accounts.

Transferring Videos

I am currently the caretaker of the fluid.project.team Google account as well as the uploader of some recent videos under my personal YouTube account, so have been researching how to do this:

1)       YouTube’s “answer” to transferring videos from one account to another is basically “download your videos, then upload them to the other channel, losing all metrics etc in the process”: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2404846?hl=en

2)       You also need to download and re-upload any captioning of the video, recreate any annotations or other overlays, etc. All a bit of a pain.

I’ve done the above for my two recent videos, and can work with others on doing it for theirs.

In the meantime, I’ve added a playlist of videos I’m aware of from other accounts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0t4cuggBuVZ0ZuJjvOHeuuzLzSNnxKR2 (helped by the list at https://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/IDRC-relevant+Videos)

Standards for Video

At the planning meeting last week we talked a little about what our standards should be for making videos publicly available – there is a desire to create more on the fly videos, but also a recognition that effort must be taken to make sure we follow good accessibility practice. The consensus seemed to be that English-language captioning is a minimum requirement. YouTube’s automatic captioning is not good enough.

For those who have not used YouTube’s captioning editor (https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734796?hl=en), my experience has been good when transcribing English-language videos. Generally I have only had to transcribe the spoken audio, and YouTube has been able to sync it automatically to the video. This obviously saves considerable time, although captioning is still labour intensive (especially with multiple speakers).

Going Forward – Questions? Comments?

I’ve tried to summarize the results of discussions at the planning meeting and otherwise, but if there are other opinions or questions, please voice them!

ALAN HARNUM
SENIOR INCLUSIVE DEVELOPER
INCLUSIVE DESIGN RESEARCH CENTRE, OCAD UNIVERSITY

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