Proposal for small change to Fluid and Floe logos

Wed Jun 11 10:02:48 EDT 2014

Good question Dana. I guess this started out by my question of what people thought about removing it. For me the reasons would be the following:

Be more consistent with the treatment of our other logos
We could easily use plain text to create the logo (which would allow for transformations and etc, as well as make it easier to use).
Also I'm honestly not sure what the "*" is supposed to mean. I may have just forgotten.

I don't think we should make the change without discussing it first, so I'm glad you brought up the question.

Thanks
Justin

On Jun 11, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Dana Ayotte <dana.ayotte at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not clear on why we want to get rid of the * on the i, if we're not trying to make the logo text transformable. Could someone say more about this? (Justin, Jess?)   Is consistency with the floe logo important? I quite like it as-is.
> 
> If we do put the * on the left side, I vote for keeping the dot on the i for clarity's sake. 
> 
> I like the Droid Sans font.  
> 
> And +1 to adding Open Dyslexic where we can (UIO etc).
> 
> Dana
> 
> On 2014-06-11, at 8:35 AM, Justin Obara wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Joanna,
>> 
>> I like the "*" at the front. I think droid sans naturally comes with a dot on the i. Could we keep this?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Justin
>> 
>> p.s. here are some examples of other "fluid" companies, organizations, projects, and etc.
>> 
>> http://fluid.irisa.fr
>> http://www.openfluid-project.org
>> http://fluid.media.mit.edu
>> http://www.fluidhair.com
>> http://www.sustainablesolutions.com/products/fluid_faucets.php
>> http://www.fluidforward.com
>> http://fluidhair.ca
>> http://www.fluid-mobility.com
>> http://fluidapp.com
>> http://fluidwebdevelopment.com
>> http://fluidsurveys.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Vass, Joanna <jvass at ocadu.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the responses everyone! 
>>> 
>>> Johnny, yes I think that was one of the reasons we used Comic Sans. The other reason I think was because of browser support for custom fonts. But maybe we could address that by using Comic Sans as the fallback font family?
>>> 
>>> Justin, I attached a version with the ' * ‘  moved to the side instead - to be consistent with the arrangement with the floe logo. I agree with Anastasia that we need something to differentiate our logo with other projects with the same name.
>>> 
>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Joanna
>>> <fluid-floe-logos.jpg>
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Johnny Taylor <johnny at abledaccess.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think so. But can anyone remind me of why you used comic sans in the first place? There are legitimate reasons. With the “a” character specifically, if I recall correctly. And how it doesn’t have the ascender protruding for the top of the character, right? What does having the stroke (sorry for the sloppy type descriptions, I’ve got a lot on my mind today) provide a reader? Does it help with dyslexia specifically? And by using open dyslexic you could potentially address this issue as well as  address others, at the same time? Seems more than reasonable to me.
>>>> 
>>>> Johnny
>>>> 
>>>> http://abledaccess.com
>>>> http://abledaccess.com/twitter
>>>> 
>>>> ... and the solution is inclusion
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Colin Clark <colinbdclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Andrés is on to something, though not necessarily with the logo itself. We should really replace the Comic Sans option in UI Options with the open dyslexia font. What do you all think? Seems like it would be useful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Jess Mitchell <jessmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrés,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along. I can imagine this font being an ‘option’ in a preference within GPII, but for a logo it might be impractical to choose a font that accommodates a particular population. Our approach has been to find something that is universally understandable and readable or recognizable — these seem the goals for a logo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:25 AM, Andrés Iglesias Pérez <aiglesias at technosite.es> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Joanna,
>>>>>>> Another open source font (cc-a 3.0) with a deeper touch into accessibility would be opendyslexic
>>>>>>> http://opendyslexic.org/ 
>>>>>>> Examples of "fluid" and "floe" in http://www.dafont.com/open-dyslexic.font?text=fluid+floe
>>>>>>> Open-Dyslexic Font | dafont.com
>>>>>>> Open-Dyslexic Font | dafont.com
>>>>>>> Leer más...
>>>>>>> The "AltaBold" is my personal favourite :3 though I understand it can be a major breakage of the whole UI of the web :- /
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Andrés Iglesias Pérez || Andres Iglesias-Perez
>>>>>>> Researcher @ R&D Department, Fundosa Technosite.
>>>>>>> C/ Albacete, nº 3. Edificio Mizar, 2ª planta. 28027, Madrid.
>>>>>>> Tel: 91 121 03 30
>>>>>>> e-mail: aiglesias at technosite.es
>>>>>>> De: fluid-work-bounces at fluidproject.org <fluid-work-bounces at fluidproject.org> en nombre de Vass, Joanna <jvass at ocadu.ca>
>>>>>>> Enviado: viernes, 6 de junio de 2014 00:05
>>>>>>> Para: Fluid-Work Mailing List Work
>>>>>>> Asunto: Proposal for small change to Fluid and Floe logos
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right now the Fluid and Floe logos are using Helvetica Neue, and I want to suggest we switch to an open-source licensed typeface. Attached is a version using Droid Sans an Apache 2.0 licensed typeface - it has similar proportions and some nice slant details.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Joanna   
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <fluid-floe-logos.jpg>
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