[Fwd: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight LMS portalintegration as unconf, post-unconf activity]

Fri Oct 5 15:54:29 UTC 2007

Barbara,

Thanks for the note.  I wanted to write to acknowledge your email and 
let you know that I'm going to need a couple more days before I can 
answer this intelligently.  (The idea relates to some Unicon-produced 
code we're looking to open source.  While no one is going to insist that 
that code form the basis of this project, I do need to get ducks in a 
row in making that at least a possible option and a motivating example.)

Please expect me to check in on this on Monday, and please do remind me 
if I forget.

Thanks,

Andrew

> Hi Andrew
> We're trying to get a sense for the last three days of the 
> Unconference if this dev work will be going on?  User Experience 
> people are happy to help with some designs for this but we wanted to 
> know if it would be included at the unconference and also, how we 
> might get more involved.
>
> thanks
> Barbara
>
>
> On 24-Sep-07, at 10:08 AM, barbara.glover at utoronto.ca wrote:
>
>> hi all,
>> I'd like to get involved as I will be going to this conference.  For
>> us newbies though, is there a link(s) to get more information.  I
>> don't know what this project is about.
>>
>> thanks
>> Barbara
>>
>> Quoting Colin Clark <colin.clark at utoronto.ca>:
>>
>>> I'll have to look more into it, but if it's suitable perhaps we can
>>> integrate with it rather than duplicating?
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing it up and providing some information about CANS!
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> Moore, Kathleen E wrote:
>>>> It sounds great, but what do gfolks think about how this relates to 
>>>> CANS?
>>>>
>>>> (_See http://wiki.fluidproject.org/x/nQca_) Is there a danger of
>>>> duplicating effort?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kathleen Moore
>>>>
>>>> Web Manager, Information Technology Services
>>>>
>>>> BU School of Management
>>>>
>>>> kemoore at bu.edu
>>>>
>>>> 617-353-2685
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* fluid-work-bounces at fluidproject.org
>>>> [mailto:fluid-work-bounces at fluidproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Daphne 
>>>> Ogle
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2007 5:41 PM
>>>> *To:* Colin Clark
>>>> *Cc:* fluid-work at fluidproject.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fwd: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight LMS
>>>> portalintegration as unconf, post-unconf activity]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a great idea!  Count me in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Daphne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Colin Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Petro raised the suggestion of a small portlet 
>>>> design/development
>>>>
>>>> project for the end of the JA-SIG unconference in November.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His idea is to get Fluid involved in helping to design a small LMS
>>>>
>>>> integration portlet that would provide a summary view of various
>>>>
>>>> information in Sakai or other learning management systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think this would be a great bit of work we could collaborate with 
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> uPortal community on, and might feed back into some of the recent
>>>>
>>>> discussion we've been having about newsfeed and synoptic-style 
>>>> views of
>>>>
>>>> data in Sakai.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [jasig-winter-07-unconference] lightweight LMS portal
>>>>
>>>> integration as unconf, post-unconf activity
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:41:17 -0700
>>>>
>>>> From: Andrew Petro <apetro at unicon.net <mailto:apetro at unicon.net>>
>>>>
>>>> Reply-To: winter-07-unconference at lists.ja-sig.org
>>>> <mailto:winter-07-unconference at lists.ja-sig.org>
>>>>
>>>> To: winter-07-unconference at lists.ja-sig.org
>>>> <mailto:winter-07-unconference at lists.ja-sig.org>
>>>>
>>>> References:
>>>>
>>>> <3b3057960709190612y34b851f3j9898b1d163e48c51 at mail.gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:3b3057960709190612y34b851f3j9898b1d163e48c51 at mail.gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> <46F1A7F4.5010308 at unicon.net <mailto:46F1A7F4.5010308 at unicon.net>>
>>>>
>>>> <3b3057960709191721r1034068dhddd7d072cdc2fae2 at mail.gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:3b3057960709191721r1034068dhddd7d072cdc2fae2 at mail.gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> <46F28557.2060007 at doit.wisc.edu 
>>>> <mailto:46F28557.2060007 at doit.wisc.edu>>
>>>> <46F28F54.8070409 at unicon.net <mailto:46F28F54.8070409 at unicon.net>>
>>>>
>>>> <65C31D1A-74FD-4084-8BE6-01D32A5EAD78 at rutgers.edu
>>>> <mailto:65C31D1A-74FD-4084-8BE6-01D32A5EAD78 at rutgers.edu>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have a particular ability to convince Pete Boysen and/or Pete's
>>>>
>>>> management to send him to the UnConference and post-activities with 
>>>> his
>>>>
>>>> shiny new CAR-ified WebCT channel in tow?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect there's room in the world for a quality "Pluggable 
>>>> Lightweight
>>>>
>>>> LMS Integration Portlet".  "PLLIP", maybe.  With plugins to query 
>>>> WebCT,
>>>>
>>>> Blackboard, Sakai.  Displays your courses/sites/whatevers, gives you
>>>>
>>>> links to them, away you go.  Shared UI excellence, maybe get the FLUID
>>>>
>>>> folks to make it sing.  Different connection details for different
>>>>
>>>> versions of WebCT?  That's fine, we can have twelve versions of the
>>>>
>>>> plugin if need be, all ready to be spring-wired in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What prevents me from just doing this some weekend is lack of 
>>>> access to
>>>>
>>>> test instances of the proprietary LMSs.  Is the Post-Un-Conference a
>>>>
>>>> chance to get together devs interested in the various LMSs to get 
>>>> this done?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably time to take this to uportal-user@ , but I wanted to flesh 
>>>> out
>>>>
>>>> the pitch here first and see if this is the kind of activity 
>>>> suggestion
>>>>
>>>> we'd want to use to draw people and like to see them do once drawn.
>>>>
>>>> Supposing this group thinks this is a good idea, I can take it over to
>>>>
>>>> -user@ as more of that infectious enthusiasm stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm torn.  I don't want to discourage people from working on uPortal
>>>>
>>>> itself post-conference, but realistically I think a project more this
>>>>
>>>> size with more of this immediate selfish return-on-investment
>>>>
>>>> proposition (tada! instead of your own hacked LMS integration, you're
>>>>
>>>> now on shared open source code with a UI plausibly on the roadmap for
>>>>
>>>> FLUID enhancement!) is easier to draw institutional devs into and more
>>>>
>>>> likely to align with existing local code they could bring and share.
>>>>
>>>> (Here's my custom channel to talk to my custom LMS, now, how would I
>>>>
>>>> make this into a PLLIP plugin?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Rutgers has a Sakai project.  Do those devs want to be available,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> connect up?  More generally Rutgers has an interesting environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> involving a federated campus and several LMSs.  In our world of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blackboard channels and WebCT channels and versions all over the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> place and now Sakai, spending some hands-on time looking at what
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we're all doing for even the lightest "integration" (Can you get it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to list their courses in the portal?  With SSO links?) could be 
>>>>>> neat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm game and can probably sell the extra days. To be honest,
>>>>>
>>>>> portal-sakai integration is on our roadmap -- something like this
>>>>>
>>>>> could be the catalyst to push it more in the near term. Though 
>>>>> most of
>>>>>
>>>>> my fall is going to be spent riding the Sakai 2.5 QA cycle & 
>>>>> trying to
>>>>>
>>>>> eek out 10% performance gains left and right to keep up with our
>>>>>
>>>>> expanding usage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Colin Clark
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto
>>>>
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>>>> Daphne Ogle
>>>>
>>>> Senior Interaction Designer
>>>>
>>>> University of California, Berkeley
>>>>
>>>> Educational Technology Services
>>>>
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>>>>
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